luxury farm apartments historic Tuscany Villas
|Per night:||€130 - €170|
|Per week:||€850 - €1,100|
Life at Villa Il Paradisino is unhurried , filled with the scents, flavors and furnishings of a past that is still alive.
We are a family friendly hotel and pet friendly also.
We are very happy to have children at the Villa and they will be safe in asny part of the estate; all the land around the villa is fenced.
The villa is surrounded by rows of grapes and olive trees, interspersed with centuries-old vegetation: ancient species of fruit trees, vegetable garden, flower gardens and meadows. Our farm produces extra virgin olive oil, red wine, organic vegetable, eggs, fruit, jams and other home made products available for our guests.
The complex is furnished with original Tuscan antiques and ceramics owned by our family for generations .
We rent 5 apartments, elegant and spacious, which contain modern conveniences. The pastel wall colors, the four-poster bed and the ancient terracotta floor tiles, contribute to creating a special atmosphere and warmth in the rooms. Bathrooms and Kitchen are furnished with authentic Carrara and other Tuscan marbles and other natural materials in splendid colors.
There is a laundry room in common use and 3 apartments have a private area outside with garden and courtyard. Chairs, deckchairs, barbecue, beach umbrellas and tables are available to enjoy the garden and the pool, having dinner or simply relaxation.
IL GIUGGIOLO - accommodation for 4+2
This apartment is located on the ground floor and it is composed of a large living room (37 sq mt) with a stone fireplace , a kitchen, a double room with an ancient wrought iron tester bed and another bedroom with brass bed. Both rooms have a private bathroom: one of these has a shower and the other has a tub, too.
There is a very comfortable double sofa bed in the living room.
LA LOGGETTA - accommodation for 4 + 3
The apartment is situated on the first floor and has a big living room (36 sq mt) with monumental stone fireplace , a kitchen and two large double rooms with private bathroom, one of which with an extra single bed. One of the bedrooms has an antique wrought iron tester bed and a large bathroom with shower and tub. Furthermore the apartment has a charming loggia with panoramic view. There is a very comfortable double sofa bed in the living room.
LA TORRE - accommodation for 2
This nice apartment is set on two floors. It is composed of a living room with a cooking corner, a double room with an antique and romantic wrought iron tester bed and a nice bathroom with a little window that looks over the roof. This bedroom has a panoramic view across the countryside because it is located right at the top of the old tower .
LOGGETTA and TORRE can be connected so that you can rent a 3 bedrooms apartment.
IL MELOGRANO - accommodation for 2 + 4
This apartment is positioned on the ground floor: it has a large living room (40 sq mt) with a nice cooking corner and a big glass door which looks over its private garden and courtyard. There is a bright double room with a monumental wrought iron tester bed (XVIII century), a special studio on a raised mezzanine level offering a panoramic view over the roof and a spacious bathroom with shower and tub. There are two very comfortable double sofa bed one in the living room and the other at the mezzanine level.
Il GELSO - accommodation for 4 + 2
A very comfortable apartment occupying two light-filled floors. On the ground floor is a sitting room with a view to the garden and a large live-in kitchen (about 40 sq mt) with an antique fireplace. On the upper floor are two bedrooms, one twin bedroom with antique tester beds in wrought iron and a queensize bedroom with another antique wrought iron bed. Both bedrooms have a private bathroom, one with shower and the other with hydromassage tub. This apartment has private courtyard with a wood-fired oven. There is a very comfortable double sofa bed in the living room.
LA LIMONAIA: (475 sq feet/45 sq meters) our suite, with a very elegant and romantic double room positioned on the ground floor, with a double bed and double sofa bed, private bathroom with jacuzzi tub and shower. The room has windows on the garden and private entrance from the garden, the ceiling is very beautiful with ancient wood rafters and the pavement is in stone.
Gelso and Limonaia can be connected so that you can rent a 3 bedrooms apartment.
Our double sofa beds are handmade by a local artesan and are confortable as a real bed.
Our services: breakfast and dinner service, musuem reservation, additional maid service, shopping assistence, spa services and baby sitting.
We give cooking lessons using the fresh products from our garden and teaching the family recipes to make people know our culture and traditions.
Family reunions and weddings for group also.
High speed internet connection is free 24h/day in the apartments.
We collaborate also with a wonderful and professional tour guide,who provide daily trips visiting Tuscany and knowing about its history, activities, gastronomy and wines. Biking and shopping tours are also available.
is located in Sesto Fiorentino, a small town surrounded by beautiful hills and the Apennine Mountains, just 6 km NW (4 miles) from Florence historical centre and less than 1 hour driving from many world-wide renowned art cities like Siena, Pisa, Lucca, Pistoia, Arezzo and mediaeval villages like San Gimignano, Volterra, Certaldo as well as the beautiful Val d 'Orcia and Mugello countryside and the Chianti wine region.
We are about 2 hours and 30 minutes drive from Rome and Venice and about 3 hours from Milan the fashion capital of the world.
Our geographic position is absolutely exceptional to visit Florence (12 minutes ride by train) and the Tuscan region: you can establish your home base in our Villa and drive everyday visiting different places: we are 3 km (1.8 miles) from the exit of A1, the most important Highway that connect you with many cities and town.
If you prefer not to drive you can easily move by train or bus: the train station is 15 minutes walking distance and the bus stop to Florence is in front of the Villa.
You can also find lots of shops and facilities like banks, pharmacies, restaurants, post office, theatre, pastry shops, bakeries, café ', Delly, Groceries, tennis courts and more that are reachable within 10 minutes or less by foot.
Sesto Fiorentino, Etruscan and then Roman village, is famous for its artistic, hand made and painting porcelain: nearby there are Richard Ginory porcelain factory and its museum: Then you can visit the Etruscan tombs "La Montagnola" and "La Mula", and the Medici Villas "Castello" and "La Petraia", where you can visit the inside and the historic Tuscan gardens outside.
Guests can also enjoy local horse riding, biking or just walking around the Villa, shopping in the little centre or exploring the surrounding countryside and forest on scenic paths seeing beautiful Historic Houses, olive trees fields, gardens, enjoying the savoury scent of Tuscany aromatic herbs.
Each month you can find many events in the towns and villages around like artisan markets, wine tasting, antiques markets and food festivals, street theatre, concerts and more; please ask for details and we will be very happy to help you to spend a wonderful time.
I'm looking forward hearing from you.
|Nov 01 2014||Dec 21 2014||€130||€130||€850||-||3 Nights|
|Jan 01 2015||Apr 14 2015||€130||€130||€850||-||3 Nights|
|Apr 15 2015||May 31 2015||€155||€155||€990||-||3 Nights|
|Jun 01 2015||Aug 05 2015||€170||€170||€1,100||-||3 Nights|
|Aug 06 2015||Aug 31 2015||€155||€155||€990||-||3 Nights|
|Sep 01 2015||Sep 30 2015||€170||€170||€1,100||-||3 Nights|
|Oct 01 2015||Oct 31 2015||€155||€155||€990||-||3 Nights|
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|Check In: 4 p.m. Check Out: 10 a.m.|
|Lodging tax: included|
|Deposits: Each Booking shall be confirmed by fax or e-mail and be followed by a deposit of 30% of the total price for the requested accommodation, payable by bank transfer, money postal order or credit card. Please ask for our cancellation policy.|
|Payment Options: Mastercard, Personal Check, Visa|
|Other Fees: The rates showed are related to Melograno apartment, 2 persons occupancy. Giuggiolo and Gelso apartment rates, 4 persons occupancy are:1700€/week or 265€/day High season, 1525€/week or 240€/day Medium and 1275€/week or euro 205/day Low. Extra-bed is euro 15/day. Rates include taxes, daily bed making, private parking, use of the pool, Internet ADSL wireless 24h/day,utilities, heating,air conditioning and satellite TV. Linens and towels for bedrooms, kitchen and bathroom are included.|
- 3 King Beds
- 2 Twin Beds
- 5 Sofa Beds
- 2 Cribs
- 5 Queen Beds
- Air Conditioning
- Daily Maid Service
- Hot Tub
- Pet Friendly
- Pool Table
- Beach Chairs
- Linens Provided
- Private Pool
- Beach Towels
- Full Kitchen
- Outdoor Shower
- View (City Lights)
- Parking Included
- View (Mountains)
- High Speed Internet
- Alarm Clock
- DVD Player
- TV (Cable/Satellite)
- CD Player
- Charcoal Grill
- Fax Machine
- Refrigerator (Full)
- Coffee Maker
- Hair Dryer
- Grocery Store
- Shopping Area
- Children's Pool
- Gym/Fitness Center
- Live Entertainment
- Movie Theater
- Basketball Court
- Horseback Riding
- Amusement Park
the Etruscan tombs La Montagnola and La Mula < 1 mile
the Medici Villas Castello and La Petraia , where you can visit the inside and the historic tuscan gardens ouside < 2 mile
cooking class and garden acitivity for children
GOLF COURSES < 15 miles with green fee DISCOUNT till the 30% for our guests!!!!!
Reviews for this vacation villa rental in Florence, Tuscany, Italy
Laura Joy Gold
Boston, MA, USA
Warm, welcoming, delicious, beautiful
October 21, 2014
My partner and I stayed here for four nights and it was the highlight of our trip to Italy. Meeting Serena and Laura made us immediately feel welcomed. Dinner was scrumptious! Serena's tour of the villa was amazing. She humbly showed us their framed document signed by Napoleon and a centuries old ossuary. We brought hope the indescribably delicious olive oil, made by the Villa, to share. Serena and her family do everything to make your stay outstanding.
Detroit, MI USA
The photos online do not to this property justice
October 7, 2014
This was our first visit to Toscana, and we happened across Villa il Paradisino online. We were fortunate to have done so. Our villa was beautiful; historic, yet with all the modern amenities, and perfectly situated for our exploration of this lovely region. Costanza and Selena and Laura were lovely hosts, helpful to new visitors with advice on good restaurants and strategies for seeing all there was to see. The train station was a 15 minute walk away, and just two stops and 3 euro away for the two of us to the main train station in Florence. Restaurants and shopping in Sesto were also just a few minutes walk away, as was morning coffee and afternoon wine. The Villa itself is loaded with fruit trees and vines, olive groves and other plants. We visited at harvest time and were encouraged to wander out and try the local produce grown on the estate. We enjoyed ourselves immensely at Villa il Paradisino, and plan to come back for another stay. We would encourage others to do so as well.
Historic, beautiful and a great service.
May 19, 2013
The moment you enter the grounds through the gate, you feel you are in paradise. The roses and blooming citrus trees made the air smell sweet and unforgettable. The main and guest villa is a true treasure. The rooms are decorated tastefully with family antiques. The service was excellent. I stayed in Torre apartment which is the 14 century tower with its original beams and floors. There are two flights of stairs to get to the main floor of the apartment so if you can't use too many steps than this may not be for you. The bedroom was on top floor, the kitchen and a bathroom one floor below. Lots of stairs. Overall my experience was great and I highly recommend the place. The only negative aspect of my stay was the sound of the roosters. There are chickens and roosters on the property. The roosters make laud noise in the middle of the night and again in the morning. I had to close the windows and shutters. It was my every night routine. I didn't get enough sleep. So if you're light sleeper than this my bother you too.
Thank you very much for your kind review.
I'm sorry you were bother by the roosters. I have informed my father about your experience and we decided we'll have less roosters and more hens...so less romantic singing but more sleeping for our guests :)
Thank you again for being our guest.
Anissa Hartline Orsino
Germantown, MD USA
May 14, 2013
My family of eight (four 30-somethings, three 60-somethings, and a fifteen-month-old) recently spent a week at Villa il Paradisino. Constanza and Serena are completely deserving of all the glowing reviews they've received here. This spot truly is a little bit of paradise. Even before we arrived, our every question was answered kindly and promptly. Constanza worked with us to set a few activities to enjoy during our stay (don't miss Constanza's cooking class or a tour with Michelangelo) and sent elaborate advice and instructions regarding our travel plans. On the day of our arrival, I felt like I had come to the home of some distant relatives. Constanza and Serena greeted us so warmly, and our rooms were set up with all the comforts of home (if home was a gorgeously remodeled 16th-century estate). As I was traveling with my toddler son, I was nervous about having all the equipment a boy his age needs. I needn't have worried. A comfortable crib for him was already set up in our bedroom. We used three different high chairs during our stay: one in our apartment, one that appeared seemingly out of nowhere the evening we decided to eat dinner on the patio, and one that was waiting for us during the two meals we ate in the main house. On the day the whole family was scheduled to take a private tour to the Chianti wine region, our excellent guide accidentally arrived without a car seat. Not to worry, Constanza and Serena had one in the office for us to use. We stayed in Melograno, Loggetta, and Torre. All the rooms looked like movie sets and were comfortably appointed with crisp linens and beautiful fresh flowers from the property. Every room was beautifully furnished with antiques, but felt comfortable and lived in--not like a museum. The bathroom in Loggetta was definitely the largest/nicest bathroom I've ever seen in any of my travels in Europe. This is a wonderful location if you'd like the Italian villa experience without having to rent a car. The train station is a leisurely 10-15 minute walk away, and from there it's only another 10-15 minutes on the train into Florence. From the villa, you can also easily walk to a grocery store, a few restaurants, gelato, shopping, etc. If you're like me, though, you'll find that the nicest way to spend a day here is reading a book in the garden, chasing the cat around the yard with your son, or drinking a glass of wine with your loved ones on the patio. I hope very much that I will return
Dear Anissa, thank you so much for your words. They touch my heart. I'm very happy you have such a wonderful memory of the time you spent at our home. Thank you for bringing your family at the Villa and to contribute to our dream to keep the property in the family for more generation to come. We very much hope to see you all soon to spend more time together. A big big hug to all of you and many beautiful things for the future of your son
Fort Worth, TX
March 22, 2013
Costanza is a wonderful host very helpful we enjoyed staying at the villa, but we did not appreciated paying for the most expensive villa and were not be able to get it when we got there do to a water leak, to use the nice big bathroom we had to cross the living room and the kitchen cause the restroom in our room was for a kid we did not get a king size bed, and I will not used the Firenze walk on foot tour guided Elena she was way to expensive we didn't know better charged us 150.00 euros for a three hours tour without getting in any of the museum while you can find the same tour for about half price.
Dear Mister and Madame,
Thank you very much for your review.I’m really surprised for your comment.Very surprised as you did not tell me anything about your complain when you were here. And of course I’m really sad to read your words.You booked 4 nights and instead stayed for 5 nights and when you return home you wrote me an email with this words: “Hello Costanza,
Thank you very much for everything we enjoy your Villa and your home town, we got home safe, see you soon”. So I really do not understand.
When you were here, I took care of you in any way that was possible: I walked you to the Delli and help you to buy the best selection of cheese, salami, wines and fruit, for no charge.I came to pick you up at the train station and drove you back at your departure for no payment. One evening I drove you at the restaurant, for no payment.
On your request I organized you the tour with Elena, that is one of the best tour guide in Florence and she charged you euro 50/hour that is the official charge of all the official tour guides. And of course I informed you in advance about this price and you confirmed. The tour you booked was a private tour, just for 2 people, you and your husband. Not a big group tour where the charge for person is lower. Elena and Me also offered to you a glass of wine and some crostini during the tour as both of us thought you were such a sweet couple!
About Giuggiolo apartment where you stayed: you booked Loggetta apartment at the reduced price of euro 150/night (instead of euro 285/night) as I offered to you the possibility to book only a part of this big apartment: one bedroom+kitchen+bathroom+living room as you were just 2 people. Unfortunate the weather was very bad for the whole week before you arrived: lots of wind and heavy rain and just 2 days before your arrival we discovered that there was 3 leaks in the roof of that apartment, 2 in the bedroom and one in the living room. The bricklayers could not come straight away as it was still raining and they could not work on a slippery roof. On your arrival day, finally came the sun and the bricklayers came immediately and you saw them working for 2 days to solve the problem.
I could not give you an apartment where the roof was not repaired and I gave you Giuggiolo apartment for the same reduced price and for the same space (exactly the same sq meters) and number of rooms that you booked in Loggetta apartment…actually in Giuggiolo you had at your disposal 2 bathrooms instead of just one.
In a house of the XV century is quite normal that you have to walk through another room to reach the bathroom, and the bed where you slept was an original four poster bed from the XVII century. I’m sorry at that time there were not king size beds. I have never wrote you about a king size bed, It is not written on the web, anywhere. Why you were expecting a king size bed? I’m sorry I do not know this.
Once again I’m really sad that I was not able to make you happy as I did my job with honesty and dedication.
I hope you will really come back with your family in the near future as you told me and Elena and that we could spend more time together.
Dear Mister and Madame,
I hope this message finds you well in Fort Worth. I did enjoy accompanying you in my hometown Florence and being at your complete disposal to taylor make your itinerary and first visit in Florence. Costanza spoke to me about a very sweet couple of guests and she recommended any special care to arrange for them a customized experience as introductory walk in Florence with me, as official tour guide of Florence.
I offered to directly pick you up at Florence train station instead of meeting you in downtown as a carefull and friendly welcome service.
I asked you several times what preferences you had about areas and timing in order to respect any of your indications.
We visited together Santa Maria Novella district and the historic Antica farmacia profumo farmaceutica, Via Tornabuoni and palazzo Strozzi, Borgo SS Apostoli, Piazza del Limbo, The Lungarni, ponte Vecchio, the Uffizi courtyard, Piazza Signoria, Mercato del porcellino, Piazza Repubblica, Duomo square, the medieval alleys of Florence, sideways and less known enchanted little corners of Florence (a very rich private itinerary). Costanza and I offered you even a Chianti wine glass and crostini to complete this walk in a local historic cellar of Florence.
I will be pleased to accompany you and your family once you get back to Tuscany. At the end of the tour you said you would have wanted to share all this beauty with your family and my promise was to invite you at the best chocolate master in town for a special tasting. I look forward to welcoming you again in my hometown with the same enthusiasm and professionality that makes each private experience unique.
With kindest regards
Adelaide, SA, Australis
October 11, 2012
Costanza and her family couldn't have been nicer. Initially we were a little disappointed to find the Villa was in a large town but after a few days we realised we had the best of both worlds. Tuscany and Florence at our doorstep, ho hum which to choose. The train to Florence took 11 minutes and Chianti took 45 minutes by car. It was a truly magnificant 6 days.
Thunder Bay Ontario Canada
September 13, 2011
The Villa was great and the host Costanza and her sister Serena were fabulous host and very close to Florence and provided us with a great memory.
Newmarket, Ontario, Canada
May 24, 2011
We wanted to have a memorable first trip to Italy this year and we certainly got it. This vacation home was excellent. Easy to get to and very beautiful location. The apartment we rented was a good size and very comfortable. Costanza and her family are welcoming and warm and truly want you to have a great experience at their Villa and in their town. All recommendations that were made were top notch. The kids already miss their Tuscany vacation home - we highly recommend this location for anyone wanting to have a fantastic vacation.
Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Country home in a City
July 5, 2010
Wow! we were welcomed like a long time friend and treated like family. Bottle of wine, homemade olive oil and fresh eggs from the farm. This is the most beautiful luxury farm apartments- Very safe within private gates - Easy access to the train and the hwy and small shopes for supplies for the apartment. Very clean, beautiful private patio. The host was so helpful with suggestions on what to see or do - We highly recommend one night of her home cook meal Italian style. We hope to travel there again.
Wow! Don't look any farther for a Tuscany villa
October 26, 2009
This place was incredible. It is like a very large hidden garden in the middle of a very nice village. You are surrounded by all kinds of trees and plants: olive trees, pomegranate trees, lemon and orange trees, persimmon trees and gardens full of all kinds of vegetables. Costanza and her family offered to let us have free broccoli, cauliflower and leeks (the only things in season). She was so helpful with suggestions and maps. And the villa itself is really beautiful and clean and comfortable. Definitely worth the money.
Steve and Donna Gale
Lake Worth, Florida
Splendid 5 days in Paradise
June 18, 2009
You won't find a more hospitable place to bring your family and friends. The Villas are full of antiques, and fully up to date with modern amenities. My 12 and 17 year old children loved the 12 acres of groves and the family pets that kept watch on the property. A short walk to the local grocery store and you'll find the finest local produce and meats, and Costanza will even cook a meal for you and your family if you wish to opt for the experience. Only a 15 minute walk to the train station, and a short 15 minute ride to the center of Florence. I can wait to reccomend this wonderful place to all my family and friends-I just hope there's room for us next year!
cavecreek , Arizona usa
A room with a view
June 5, 2009
This tuscan home could not have been more lovely . It was everything your Italian fantasy could possibly dream about . Not to forget to mention that Costanza was an amazing hostess with much passion for her historic guest home . I hope to return someday , there is more to explore . I wouldn't stay anywhere else near Florence !!!
ron& donna clarkson
campbell river british columbia
a true taste of excellent italian hospitality
February 3, 2009
an excellent location with amazing italian kindness from costanza and her family.My wife and I spent 3 days at this superb italian estate and cannot rave enough about the home cooked meals and the gracious hosts.Cannot wait to return to the tuscany region and definitly to visit costanza and her family again.excellent
Santa Monica, CA USA
If you are visiting Tuscany, you MUST stay here!
July 20, 2008
My family and I stayed at Villa Il Paradisino for 1 week in July 2008. It was by far, the BEST experience any of us have ever had. All the apartments have been lovingly restored to create a traditional Tuscan feel but with the best of modern luxuries. The gardens are out of this world! Rolling green gardens with the most beautiful flowers, trees and vegetables. We had a 5 year old and a 3 year old who could roam around safely with us knowing there is no way they could escape! We ate fresh salad and vegetables from the gardens every day and cooked them in the fresh herbs we could pick from outside our patio doors. Constanza cooked us a traditional Tuscan meal and it was the best food we ever tasted! It was a total experience! The Location is PERFECT. We walked to the train station and within 10 mins we were in the centre of Florence, and Sienna and Chianti are close. Constanza and her family are the perfect hosts in every way. If you ever plan on visiting Italy, you MUST MUST stay here
Perfect Tuscan Holiday
July 19, 2008
We just returned from a wonderful stay the Villa Paradisino. I can't say enough great things about it. It was even more beautiful than the pictures! Extremely clean, spacious and wonderful! Costanza is an excellent concierge....as well as cook, property manager--you feel like you are visiting an old friend. I highly recommend her dinners. My only regret is that I did not take a cooking class from her. We were a large family of 8--3 generations ranging from 9 to 78 years old. We stayed in Il Gelso, and had plenty of room. Everyone loved every minute of our stay. It is in a perfect location to Florence and wine country. A great respite after a day of sightseeing or shopping. Villa Paradisino is a perfect place for your Tuscan holiday!
Calgary, Alberta Canada
June 11, 2008
My husband & I spent six nights at Villa Paradisio and had a wonderful time. The room & bathroom were very clean and comfortable, the gardens were beautiful, but the best part of our time there was Costanza and her family. They were so helpful and could not do enough to make us welcome. They gave us alot of advise as to where to go in Florence and the surrounding area. We had a great vacation and would not hesitate to recommend this Villa to anyone. Costanza set us up with a tour guide who took us around the countryside for one day, and the rest of the time we got around by train eliminating the need to rent a car. We had a wonderful breakfast every morning before we got on our way to the days activities. I hope to get back there soon. Margaret & Darrell Scrivens
Sao Paulo , SP Brasil
The best place in Toscana
May 21, 2008
Villa il Paradisino is truelly a small paradise.We had great time there with Costanza and her family who atended us with kind and simpathy,making us really feel at home.Very confortable, trully Tuscan and in a great position for those who wants to go around Chianti region.A place to stay and come back .We feel that is our home in Italy.The smell of the flowers at the Villa ,the kindness and the comfort are unforgetable!
Lisa and Stuart
Romantic Italian Paradise
October 15, 2007
From the moment the gate swings inward to the Villa il Paradisino, you are transported back to a time of relaxation and romance. The feeling of welcome from the Filippi family, the historic beauty of the property and the authentic feel of the rooms and furnishings made us wish never to leave such a wonderful place. Costanza and her family accommodated our every wish for adventure; a walking tour of Florence with Francesca, riding horses in the hills of Serpoille with Mauro,and cycling in the hills of San Gimignano with Bruno were just a few things made possible for us. Our favorite was the cooking lesson with ingredients from the villa itself that allowed us to create a living memory to take home as our rememberance of such a magical place. Whether you desire a release from the chaos of your life, time to reconnect with family, or a romantic escape,this is the place to be in all of Italy!! Let Costanza and her family help you to create the vacation of a lifetime. We're glad we did!
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About:Ciao a tutti!
I'm Costanza and I'm born in Florence and live here with my wonderful boyfriend Knut who is Norwegian and my dog Nina.
I love cooking, agriculture and nature.
I have always breathed a wonderful atmosphere in the big kitchen, around the marble table where my grandmothers and grandfathers...
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